How to Build a Second Brain and Use AI Agents in Your Business – with Kerstin Dallinger

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Have you thought about how AI is going to impact your online business in the next 3 to 5 years? Because it will. And if you're not already thinking about it, this episode is probably going to be a bit of a wake up call, but in a good way, because the reality is AI has shifted from just being something that you used to write your captions or brainstorm ideas to something that can actually run entire parts of your business on its own, which is pretty mind blowing in itself.

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An AI agent right now can actually do all of the same things that used to need a 3 to 4 person team, and anyone building an online business or wanting to build an online business. This is a massive opportunity if you position yourself correctly, because the entrepreneur who figures this out in the next 12 months are going to be very hard to compete with in the next 3 to 5 years.

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And the ones that don't even consider it a really can the impact of it. This brings me to something that I want to mention before we get in today's episode, which is obviously all targeted around the conversation of AI, but I have just relaunched my free masterclass and I'm going to be running it live on June 2nd. It's a 40 minute bootcamp where we are going to pick the online business model that actually fits your life, that is going to make you money online.

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We're going to figure out who you're sending it to, and I'm going to leave you with a three day action plan so that you can start your business. Within the following three days, there will be a playback. Anyone that is listening to this after June 2nd. And because this conversation is so targeted to talk about how AI is going to impact the online business world, AI is going to be included in that masterclass.

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And all of the material that I give you to help you build your business offers, write your copy and test your ideas really fast. The masterclass is completely free and the link to join is in the show. Notes. I would love to invite you to come and join me. If you are currently in the process of setting up an online business, this masterclass is going to be something that's going to help you futureproof that online business.

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Coming back to today's episode, we are talking all about AI today, and I actually know my guest today in real life. She actually happens to be on the island that I am currently living in and coping young, and her name is Constant Challenge. She is an AI strategist, a former legal consultant and founder of papaya, an AI brand helping women turn expertise into scalable businesses using AI.

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She also co-founded Ninja AI, B2B AI consultancy. So she's genuinely in the thick of this every single day. She's not just talking about it. She's been working in AI over the past three years. After she walked away from a successful legal career, she actually helped me set up something called A Second Brain a few weeks ago, which we get into in this episode, and I literally text how five minutes before we hit record because I thought I'd done it, done it wrong, it's done something wrong, which is very important for me.

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So today she's going to delve into what we need to be thinking about and considering in this age of AI, in the online business world, the good, the bad, the ugly and the unknown. So let's get into the conversation. Okay, to kick off, I'm going to ask a really big question because I want to understand why this conversation today is so relevant about the topic of AI.

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Yeah, this is such a good question because in my opinion, AI, everybody has something to say about AI, right? And almost everybody's using AI in, different ways and like different levels. But AI has changed so much over the past few years, and AI is actually not a new technology. You know, it's been existing for over 70 years, but, the whole user experience has like improved a lot since chipped, chipped to use it to face, but now we are facing, like we are facing a, a real change in how we should use AI.

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And now we are literally moving from chatbots to actual letting AI execute tasks. Yeah, it's, it's a big shift, right. And I think we're watching it unfold. I mean, it's kind of scary because it's going so quickly and obviously you've so much more information on this and will come on as we go through the episode. But what I really want to understand is you actually left your high income legal credit to move to an island in Thailand, which is the same island that I live on, and that's how we know each other to start working in AI.

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And I want to go back, you mentioned obviously this it's been around for 70 years and it's changed so much in the past three years, which is kind of when you started working on it. So what made you make that leap and go down this route? Right. So like basically when I left my, my legal shop, back in the days, it was so, so scary and like, I literally hated it, you know, and I felt like, I want to travel.

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I want to do something on my computer. But I wasn't actually like I was. I didn't even know how to, like, install a program, at it. Didn't know anything. You know. And then I tried to, like, lean into web design, and I started my own web design agency, and that went actually pretty well, because when I'm into something, I really think digging deep into the material.

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But then, like when this whole I thing kind of emerged and like, people, yeah. When, when ChatGPT came out and when, like, all those, fancy tools came out where you can build your own website and stuff like that, I was, like, completely, I was chasing so many shiny objectives, and I was scratching almost every day on a burnout because I was so scared that I'm gonna lose my clients, that I'm gonna lose my job, that I'm gonna lose my agency, and then I have to go back to Austria and hire as a as a legal counsel again.

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And so I decided to not running away, but literally facing this new for. And then I literally tried to really taking deep, learning how to use those kind of tools. And of course, I made so many mistakes and, and still so often and, yeah, this made me kind of realized that I it's not just a tool.

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It's not just coding. It's not just, ChatGPT. It's not just at once. It's so much more. And, yeah, I think this is the most important thing for almost everyone to understand. It, how you can, like, really, transform your business with those kind of technology. Definitely. So I'd love to discuss a little bit about how it's about.

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Yeah, random things with with the chat bot. The outcome was not good at all. So I tried to get on product engineering and then I tried to not, hey, how can I, and hence not promptings to get like the most out of it. And when I discovered those coding kind of coding tools, coding agents like Liverpool and Curse, I tried to vibe code my, my very first, web applications, and I had no experience in coding, whatsoever.

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So, of course it was a huge failure. And, yeah. So, it was just like really, learning how to use those tools with trial and error. And, over the last couple of months, I, I tried to understand how to firstly, how to approach those kind of transformation projects because, in most of all cases, it's no question, what tool you want to use.

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It's more a question, what is your business and what problems and bottlenecks do you have in your business, and where do you want to, develop your business? And, you have to understand your, to do the digital processes. Right. So you have to understand, where are you right now and where do you want to be in one year or two year, five years.

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And the next step would be okay, where do I have my data? Because no tool, no AI model, can help you with your problems, with your bottlenecks. If your data is like, I don't know, start in the basement or it's been stored in all the data silos or whatsoever. So you have to really look into your business and fix like the the basics first.

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Yeah. And this is what I did. That makes sense. I think a lot of people are scared about this. Like I see you know me that is like rapidly approaching, the end that I, you need data to fill the AI tool. Right. And that's how you're going to be able to utilize AI in your business. So for solopreneurs and I can speak for a lot of my clients when I say this, because I used to have clients up until about six months a year ago that would literally keeping all of their business records on pen and paper or writing it down.

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And literally, like you said, keep it in the basement, keeping in their journals. That's going to be very difficult to then digitalize and then bring online and then build a database that your business can feed off of to utilize these AI tools in a way that's reproductive. So to someone that isn't very techie, that doesn't really understand, like what where even talking about when we say like data to feed the AI tools, talk to us a little bit about like, what does that look like?

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What do we need to be storing online in notion and drives and whatever to then be able to feed AI tools in order for us to use this properly? Yeah. I mean, basically this is, kind of your business DNA, right? It's your second brain, so to speak. It's everything, related to your piece, to your business.

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It's the brand guidelines. It's, your product leaders, your service, your strategy. It's, like the meeting notes from all your meetings you're having with your stuff. So it can be, like all of those data which can come, like, in a structured way. When you think of, Excel sheets, for instance, it can come in unstructured, ways when you think of voice notes or PDFs or, slack notifications.

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So the thing is to, like, capture this data storage somewhere and then, like, build this kind of data layer, where all data is being synched and like the I, the idea that Chanticleer can grab these data and, make predictions, make content, make strategies and so on. So but this is the foundation because without any data, without any context of a business, of your clients and so on, AI is not like, can't do anything with that.

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Yeah. It's very hard for it to be able to help you. Right. If you don't have anything to feed it, it's going to be very difficult for it to give you anything back, because at the end of the day, we still at the moment control the output, the AI, I'm sorry, the input into AI that then gives us the out.

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So for somebody that really hasn't, got that data or is currently in the process of building all of that data and putting something together where is the biggest opportunity that lies within, like a solopreneur using AI in their business? And what do they need to start thinking about to make sure that they are able to jump on that opportunity before it's too late?

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So, first of all, gets the basics down. So, with, like, before thinking about any fancy a web store or building an agent gets the basics down. And you can do that with, like with an AI model. So you can, for instance, build your second brain with the help of AI and, like build, build a context management system where everything is stored, like everything.

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And yes, it will take a little bit of your time and it will take a little bit of your thinking. But once that is done, you have a solid, yeah, a solid basis for everything. Which comes next. And I think this is the main thing to, to consider. And, get into bed with different AI tools, with different setups and, but actually the task is the same.

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Build the foundation. I think it goes with anything. Right? Like you have to have the foundation before you can add all of the extra layers on top, and you've thrown out a few words. There are like a genetic models agent. In basic terms. What does that mean to someone that's like, what do you mean? What are you talking about?

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Yes. Remember ChatGPT, so you so you give like, your, your prompt into ChatGPT and you get your output right. So that's basically and then you have to copy the output somewhere around, like it's doing its thing. And with an agent, an agent is basically you don't you don't prompt an agent. You set you set a call to the agent.

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And this agent then runs off and it's like it's doing its own. It's making its own decision based on different lights, different settings, of course, that basically you say to the agent, okay, do XYZ set and the agent is running off and hopefully doing it until the tweet, it reached its goal. You know, and this is the, the main yeah.

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Points. Yeah. Never to check what that makes sense. I guess a lot of people are still using it on a really surface level that just using their prompts with GPT or whatever other platforms are out there and they, just like did a, like I want you to act as blah, blah, blah, blah, and then trying to just take that input and then run it themselves, whereas when you're talking about agents, essentially you can build a whole team with with agents, right.

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And you can have different agents for different tasks or workflows that you run and operate on in your business. So for someone that is still using it on that surface level, what should they be starting to think? In order to, to deepen their relationship with AI and set up some of these agents and use it on, in a way that can actually really support them in that business.

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That's a very good question, because, it's it's kind of one thing to to play a little bit around with agents and like set one agents up and, having like a whole team of agents like, you're basically the orchestrator of your agent team, you know, and to set these agents in a way where they where they really achieve the goal and equally not doing any harm.

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And that's very important because, we are still all of us are still scratching on the surface when it comes to cyber security. And, I'm not speaking of any data, data protection regulation. I'm talking about cyber security. So I think when you are like, I would say a beginner, I would, personally be a little bit, yeah.

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Hogan and I said I would be a little bit cautious questions. Cautious before I would build all doors agents by myself, giving them access to all my data, like, literally. And my emails and everything. So but equally.

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There needs to be, like, some starting point and so what I want to actually say is, I would start with getting a cloud, for instance, a cloud subscription, learn how to, build agents with Claude, because Claude has pretty good guardrails and also pretty good, security measures. So, I think without getting into much detail, I think this is what I would start learning how to build those kind of agents.

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And, maybe I wouldn't start with, like, open class or something like that. Yeah, that makes sense. To start with something that already has that functionality of, like, protecting your, your data in place, which Ford seems to, seems to be doing pretty well at the moment. And I guess you mentioned earlier about building a second brain.

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Now, I know what this is because you helped me build my second brain a couple of weeks ago, and for me, it feels like when I understand better how to properly, properly use it because I'm still learning as we all are, on exactly what that looks like for me. Luckily, I had a lot of data to feed this second brain because I've been building my business now for six years.

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I keep, everything in notion, like my whole life is in notion. And I can see how this I'm having this second brain is really going to benefit me in elevating and leveling up my business and creating better workflows and strategies, and also things, because it has so much information about me. And my background is in the fashion industry, right, as a commercial fashion buyer.

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So I fully understand why data is king, and that's why I've actually documented everything. Because in my job as a fashion buyer, I had to hindsight and look back at all of the data in order to make decisions, move me forward and figure out what I wanted to do in the upcoming seasons. So collections that I was going to buy into.

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And that knowledge fueled every decision I made. So I've been really big on like keeping and storing all of my own data. But like we said earlier, not everybody has has done, I can totally see how, like having this thing with school second brain is really going to help me now in my business meeting forward. And this feels like a really good and fairly simple place for somebody to start if they haven't got the experience using the agents, if they are literally just still on that like surface layer of, of of using AI.

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So talk a little bit about the second brain for anybody listening. What can that actually do for someone's business. So like the second brain is in, in a nutshell, like a folder structure where basically your business DNA lives. Right? So, for instance, just read a paper, your French guys and your wife's French tonality. What else?

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What else can live in, like your shop? It's your whole space. Your team, like your team structure, the name of your teams, the the tasks, the different tasks. When you have a team, of course. Then everything. Right. In terms of your products. So basically, like, everything you can imagine. And this lives in like a very specific folder structure because maybe that that might be too technical, but, you need to have like, some sort of context management system otherwise, the AI models, and it doesn't matter if it's Claude or Chip beauty or whatsoever.

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It's using a lot of toolkits. So you need to be clever with your context, which is basically you are like your knowledge base so that you can use actually the AI models in a very efficient and also cheap way. And so this is how the second brain works. And then you can connect it for instance with like a tool called obsidian, which is basically like a wiki.

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And it connects like the, the task is to connect those files, together and make it more accessible, because otherwise everything is stored like some somewhere in, in, in folder structures. And you can't do anything with that. Right. So you need to have that some sort of user interface. Some something what makes all your information, all your data more accessible for our human brain to like to process?

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It's easy. And, this is basically the idea of your of your second brain. So you have basically, a tool which acts like the storage and stores all your information, and then you have, an AI model which is acting like the brain behind the storage. And this is also kind of important to set those systems up in a way so that it's more or less model agnostic because, imagine token costs are increasing tomorrow tremendously.

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What are you going to do so or what is like the model you chose is like having a breakdown or something. And that happened already is. So, to set up those kind of things, you need to find a way how to set up sustainable and efficient so you that you really can benefit from it. Yeah, for sure.

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There's a few different things to think about. Right. And I think one of them is are we are we using this or not. Thank you. Because I think there's a lot of people that, I've had a lot of conversations which scare me a little bit in all honesty, because I speak to obviously a lot of online business owners who yeah, they're using AI on a surface level, but they don't really aren't really looking into the future to seeing see what comes next.

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And they're not thinking about this in a way that could impact their business or like how they're setting things up now could be a massive game changer for them in the next 3 to 5 years. And it scares me because this is for many reasons, and I know you share some of the same views on this. And I want to, raise more awareness in the online business space around, what not implementing some form of AI in your business is going to do.

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It's going to look like in the next 3 to 5 years, because I think it's going to have some very serious consequences for anybody. It doesn't catch on in some way right now. I have spoken about it in previous podcast episodes where I can kind of see it that everyone needs to start using AI as a baseline anyway.

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But in terms of the way that online business is going to go, you can either go down the route of building with AI and you can go down the route of building with people. So like building communities, or you can go down the route of building yourself a personal brand because that personal brand is something that I can't take away your personal experiences and that's your unique selling point.

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So for me, that's really three routes that the next few years hold in terms of like building yourself an online business. And I think it's really important for anybody that is starting an online business right now, that they consider those three options in addition to just using AI to help them build their business and grow their business at the same time, what does the future actually look like?

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Because you've obviously got way more insights into it than I have. Like, I've watched, the AI documentary or what we call it. I can't remember what it's actually called, why you've got all of the top AI guys in the industry talking about all of the different opinions on air. Nobody really knows. It's good to get more opinions, I guess.

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And there's obviously two routes that can go guys down the doomsday route or it goes down like the Utopia route. So from your perspective, given that you've spent the past three years in AI committing to testing and trialing and averaging all of the different ways to use it, what does the future look like, in your opinion, for, someone that is using AI right now and also someone that isn't using.

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Oh, so, yeah, I mean, I have no clue. I have really no clue, but I think, so basically, When ChatGPT when we, I want to start with this when chat GPT three 3.5 was able to, likes doing work autonomously on a task was about 36 seconds. We have now like this duration of AI task of ten hours.

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So what does it mean? The duration of AI task is basically how long, and I can leave that on a task. And now it's ten hours, and this is a thing, and it's getting better and better and better. And it's like this. We actually we don't have any idea what's coming next. But I think everything which can be done on a computer and digitally.

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So every online business like web design and or online marketing doesn't matter. In my opinion, can be done by an AI faster. It's happening now. It can be done faster. And I don't know if it can be done better now, but I think that's just a matter of time. So therefore it's super, super important to first, firstly learn how to really become an AI.

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User heavy user and learn how to not just use ChatGPT to learn how to use chat bots, but learn how to build those AI systems. And secondly, build your community and build your personal brand because we like, we are facing, a lot of people who are jumping on this AI train and creating content and like, following the, like, offers to people.

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And it's getting more and more and more and more. So it's so important to build trust and to build the personal brands, to build community and to build like a knowledge about AI and combine it with your existing domain because, like the, the knowledge about AI is not enough. And but when you combine it with your domain, like online marketing or whatever it is, then you can like leverage your outcome tremendously.

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And this is what I really want to tell people. Yeah. To combine their task with like the domain with AI and yeah, I'm what was your other question? Was, I guess the, you've explained like, well, what we need to be thinking about in terms of, like what that that future looks like. I guess people are thinking right now in terms of, like, oh, these jobs are going to be gone because of AI, and I don't I think people that are employed are thinking about it in that way of like, okay, my job could be at risk because of XYZ ad, but I don't think that online business owners are looking at

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that right now, because I think if what the perception sometimes can be is I've built this myself, so I'm in control of it, in which case it can't be destroyed, which is true in some ways, because you do have more control over it, and you've got more autonomy to then be able to pivot in the direction that you've just mentioned and make sure that you are building the community.

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You are building the personal brand, you, implementing and using AI and understanding how to use AI. Because at the end of AI, no one can be an expert in AI. Really, because it's involving so frickin fast. So unless you are literally working in one of the, AI tools businesses, it's probably going to be great if you become an expert on it.

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But I guess we can educate ourselves. We can shape the future. We can change the way that we are personally working to accommodate for this huge shift. Do you think there are any businesses that this will not impact in the online world? In the online world? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. I really don't think so.

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And also when I'm thinking like beyond the online world, like there are so many like not even lawyers or medical doctors are safe from AI especially, you know, knowledge workers, safe and safe anymore. Right. Especially in the online, space, as I said, everything which which happens digital, is code based, right? And when something is code based, then model can do it.

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Yeah. So and the thing. Yeah, I think, this is, the main reason why it's so important to, to be visible. So because then you can like build this trust and then you can like, build your personal brand, and that makes you less, replaceable. Should we be scared? Should we be worried about this, or is it something that you see is like a really big opportunity and you know, it depends on my my daily mood, whether I'm, like, completely scared or like, I, I, that's, that's going to everything is kind of it.

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Right. But the fact is, in my opinion, it can be, like it can end up in both ways either, we kind of evolve like the humanity is involved. It is evolving into the next, level. And then we like all those, task, like, I don't know, is is being done by AI, and then we can, like, go to the beach and really embrace our actual meaning.

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And we can, like, experience what it means to be human. And we can focus on a community. We can focus on relationships, and we can focus on, like, moving our body and not sitting all day in front of our computer. Because I really don't think anyone, woke up one day and said, uff, I want to, I want to become a call center agent, and I want to do that for a living.

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You know, the years, people like, especially since the industrialization people are doing or have to do, work to earn money, to buy food, to, rent a flat whatsoever. So and I think when we go down that road, I can give us a lives full of abundance and so we can focus more on what really matters.

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This is about what which I really like and I really want to believe in. And the other way is like, okay, we have like a mass unemployment situation happening and we have like this fucked up situation in, it you put it political, in a political situation and we know, when people are getting a very powerful technology and those kind of people are not really nice, so to speak, then we all know what's going to happen.

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So this is where I'm kind of a little bit scared because now we have this situation going on. And yeah, when those people have like not only AI but like robots and I see being used for military, programs and it's going to be a wealth concentration and the power concentration and, yeah, companies who are actually deploying AI models are getting richer and richer and richer and richer.

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And those people who are using AI, they are gagging for tokens and maybe token like is becoming the new currency and you know, there is a lot of situations and, possibilities, which can happen. And yeah, I think that's, that's a big risk. And also the situation that the models, becoming intelligent, more intelligent, and they are becoming recursive self-improvement, improving.

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Which means, I can optimize this itself. It gets better than it optimize itself. Again. Again, again, again. So we don't know yet what that means. So. And everybody, like everyone who watched, Terminator, Gets a glimpse of what that can, could it might not happen, but you know what I mean. We we we don't we.

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No one has actually an idea what it read. Well, it's from I think that's the that's the scary part, right? Like no one can even tell us. Even the people that are building these tools can't actually give you 100%. Like the whole premise of that documentary that I was talking about earlier is that no one has the answers.

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That's the conclusion. And it's just like we just have to live. We have to do the best that we can. We have to have it at the back of our mind, at the forefront of our mind, to be thinking about this on a daily basis. But the reality is, no one can predict the future. No one can say, set in stone, this is what's going to happen.

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And I think, to be honest, it's probably going to go both ways. I think it's probably in a go down the doomsday route first, because quite often to get to that more like, freedom based life that you spoke about, where we will like for our purposes. And we're not waking up having to go to our call center jobs or cleaning jobs that don't nobody really wants to do, especially in like the Western world that comes later.

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I feel like shit has to hit the fan and things have to fall apart a little bit before we get to that point. It's a little bit like if you're tidying a messy work and you normally have to like, chalk everything out before you, then fold it all neatly back together. And I feel like at the moment we're on this like, okay, we're learning, we're learning, we're learning, we're introducing things that this really rapid working.

00;38;29;01 - 00;38;49;20

Right. And then at some point is going to probably crash, and then it's going to slowly, gradually come back up and like get a little bit at all. And that's just life and that's what happens. But I guess the fear is that we've never really experienced something as drastic as this. Change, like everything else, has been very much built around humanity.

00;38;49;23 - 00;39;13;20

And now we're building around robots. Which is kind of terrifying, but can be really exciting if we look at it from like that optimistic standpoint. And as long as I in my opinion, as long as we are doing whatever we can to our best of our ability to integrate, to implement, to think about the future for ourselves, we can't really go wrong.

00;39;13;26 - 00;39;43;07

Like, because that's all we can do right now. There is nothing else. We've got no other option. We're in control of what we can control. So and that's my that's my take on it. But do you have any tips for somebody that is running an online business right now that is freaking out about the future, and they want to make sure that they are future proofing their business so that there's not this massive, massive shocked them in 3 to 5 years time, maybe even sooner than that.

00;39;43;10 - 00;40;01;27

When we are living in a completely different reality of what the world looks like with AI. So what would your best advice be to someone right now to get started with AI on a slightly higher level than just like, prompting, using it to write their content? For example, what's the first thing someone she got into each day?

00;40;02;00 - 00;40;36;26

Yeah. So rule number one, don't get to, like, confused on all the different tools. So focus on 1 or 2 tools and don't get messy with any tools because it's getting overwhelming and it's basically too much. Reckon recommendation number two is like sit down and get a claw subscription. Well, like a church, a beauty subscription, whatever it is.

00;40;36;28 - 00;41;13;27

And then build, build a second brain like you did the other day. So sit down, build a system. Transfer your knowledge into the system and, play around, play around with. I ask AI questions. And then learn how to interact with, with the different models. And this is one way I would approach the whole journey. And the other way is maybe, yeah, look for help, look for assistance.

00;41;13;27 - 00;41;53;16

Look for guidance. Whether it's watching YouTube videos, whether it's doing an online course or, like ask a friend who is a little more advanced in this kind of stuff. I don't you ask me. But I think no one has to be alone in the journey. And it's it's super, super critical to, yeah, to ask for help and asking the community how people are doing that, you know, and, I think start building and start using it.

00;41;53;18 - 00;42;16;19

And don't be too scared, that you can do anything like wrong or you can mess it up or something like that. It's not not happening most of the time. Most of the time I literally text you five minutes before. We haven't talked like I think I've done it wrong with my second, right? Yeah, but this is the thing.

00;42;16;19 - 00;42;40;07

We are in this area where, as you said, no one is an expert and there are a lot of open questions and we all have to figure it out. And some of us are a little bit more advanced, and some of us are just at the beginning, but none of us is an expert like a real expert and can like us, like answer all the questions right away.

00;42;40;07 - 00;43;05;29

So it's for all of us the learning curve and and like firstly, there are no stupid questions. So we have to get rid of this behavior pattern. And secondly, we have to start somewhere. Definitely. We all have to start somewhere. And I think both of us are at a massive advantage because we are on an island surrounded by people that are working with AI, and that is not the normal situation.

00;43;05;29 - 00;43;34;03

I know that if someone was listening to this living in a small town in England, for example, they're probably thinking, how on earth are they even having these conversations right now? Because it's just not the dumb thing. I don't think to be having these conversations in in, outside of like maybe the bubble that we're in or like some other bubbles around the world that are having these conversations on a daily basis, like it is so prominent in both of our lives, like we both speak about it, or even I'm not.

00;43;34;08 - 00;43;55;07

I'm nowhere near the level that you're at, but I'm still involved in conversations daily where people are building with I, having conversations like it literally gets dropped into every other conversation, I would say. And I think there's a lot of people out there that are not exposed to it on the level that we both have been living in Thailand, where there are a lot of AI entrepreneurs.

00;43;55;09 - 00;44;17;02

And I think you mentioned about getting help and asking for help, and that's where I guess you set up your business to support people, particularly like female entrepreneurs in integrating this, because you can see how much opportunity that raises. So for anybody that does need and is looking for that support in integrating AI into their online business, how would you be able to support them?

00;44;17;09 - 00;45;04;18

So, basically AI, what I'm learning, like what I'm learning from my agency that we are transforming like small to medium sized businesses into our iconic, I'm taking this knowledge and like, literally, applying it to, small solopreneurs. And there are different ways how that can look like it's either a mentorship or like I'm, guiding female solopreneurs on their own AI journey with, like, calls and, sessions and asking, like, answering all the questions and building together, like, specific problems.

00;45;04;20 - 00;45;32;22

Of course, with all with all the, different challenges that we are facing within this journey. But I also like experience that, was experiencing that, a lot of, very successful, business owners don't have the time to really sit down and learn everything from scratch. You know, they are very curious about that, but they just don't have the time always.

00;45;32;22 - 00;46;02;14

So, I also offering like, done for you as solutions where I really built systems for them. And then of course, teach them and train them on how they can like use it properly and how they can, like, sustain it and how they can, like build those systems and make it better and like because, yeah, all these systems are nothing.

00;46;02;14 - 00;46;30;00

But when you don't use it, so have we covered everything that you think we need to cover today talking about AI or is there anything else you would like to throw in there that we think we need to know right now? I think we've covered everything so far. Amazing. Well, I want to go back to something you said around if I goes in a very positive direction.

00;46;30;00 - 00;46;53;08

And you mentioned, like, you know, we could just be living on the beach, living out our purpose, like doing things that we actually love and really enjoy doing, rather than being down on a day to day basis and, doing tasks that we don't really want to do or jobs that we don't really want to do. Essentially, that is us getting back our freedom, our freedom to explore, our freedom to enjoy our life and come back to our true purpose, our true essence.

00;46;53;10 - 00;47;19;17

So I always ask this question to end an episode, and I really would love to know what does freedom look like for you right now? And if we went down the route of going into this like utopia version of AI, what what would your freedom look like that? Oh my God, that's such a deep question. And so hard like to answer that, because back in the day, I would have said, freedom.

00;47;19;17 - 00;47;56;07

It says traveling and enough money and blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think now freedom means, yes, financial freedom, of course. The having the freedom to travel and to work like remotely from the I to work. But for me, freedom means also like taking responsibility for every step I take. Because now I'm like, I'm an entrepreneur.

00;47;56;07 - 00;48;26;04

And when I when unsuccessful, it's my responsibility. It's also my responsibility when, things are messing up or when something is, is not going right, you know, so this is also my responsibility. And I think freedom is not just about doing whatever you want to do. It's about to, take full responsibility for everything you do and on this planet.

00;48;26;06 - 00;49;01;04

So I think from that perspective, we always have a choice. We always have a choice. And especially now we have a choice where we live. We have a choice how we use AI. So we have the choice. Okay. I want to check all my people, because now I'm the five agents and I don't want to anymore. Or we have the freedom to empower people and teach them how they can use technology and create a better world for us, for the community.

00;49;01;06 - 00;49;54;01

And yeah, I think this this means freedom for me now. And I also think when like in a couple of years, three years, five years, whatever, when the robots, have taken over the world, just, I think it's more like freedom is also about having, like, making decisions based on your values and not doing whatever you want to do, but also having this sense of what does it actually mean, and what impact does it actually have on your people, on your relationships maintain.

00;49;54;04 - 00;50;18;03

And this is what I mean, I love it. Thank you so much for sharing that and going deeper and telling us how we can use AI on a much more deep level than most people are using. Yeah, currently, if anybody wants to connect with you, how can they find you? I'm on LinkedIn so you can find me on LinkedIn.

00;50;18;05 - 00;50;38;24

I have like a small Instagram profile and. Yeah. So but LinkedIn is the preferred social media channel, so I'm happy to reach out to me. Amazing. I will link your profile in the show notes. And thanks so much for joining me. So really appreciate you sharing all of your eye wisdom with us. Yeah. Thank you for having me today.

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00;50;57;06 - 00;51;22;29

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00;51;22;29 - 00;51;38;01

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00;51;38;02 - 00;52;01;21

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